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RJS
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Posted: June 8, 2007 5:54 PM |
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Hi all... Thought this article may be of interest.
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Can this be so?
RJS
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Darwin 
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Posted: June 8, 2007 6:02 PM |
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Thats right. Lets give it up for Darwin. A man a few weeks ahead of the headlines. Yes Lord. The man do know what he is talking about.
Winston, look brother They follow me. I started when I was 6. They know I know what I see.
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Darwin 
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Posted: June 8, 2007 6:07 PM |
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Sorry guys,
I just got to say, yea man, come talk to the weatherman. You guys want to make me look like a dummy, well read that and lets talk. Thats wright.
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RJS 
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Posted: June 8, 2007 6:11 PM |
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Winston/Darwin/Ben/Anyone... I'm trying to find other photos of this area. Could someone please direct me to which sol(s) approx. this would have been taken on. I'd like to see if there are similar photos that possably show "puddles" or other signs of water/ice.
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Darwin 
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Posted: June 8, 2007 6:11 PM |
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Soory guys,
I am a scientist and I love it when they listen to commen sense. There is lodgic at JPL. Yes Lord.
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Darwin 
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Posted: June 8, 2007 6:16 PM |
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Guys,
Next they will be talking about Darwin Ice. That right.
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Darwin 
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Posted: June 8, 2007 6:17 PM |
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RJS,
Im too shaken by there admission to think.
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RJS 
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Posted: June 8, 2007 6:21 PM |
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Darwin... Glad you liked the article. I thought it was pretty exciting when I read it. I thought these lines were the most compelling arguments for liquid water or ice - The resulting stereoscopic reconstructions, made from paired images from the Opportunity rover's twin cameras, show bluish features that look perfectly flat. The surfaces are so smooth that the computer could not find any surface details within those areas to match up between the two images.
"The imaging shows that the areas occupy the lowest parts of the terrain. They also appear transparent: some features, which Levin says may be submerged rocks or pebbles, can be seen below the plane of the smooth surface."
WOW!!! - RJS
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Darwin 
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Posted: June 8, 2007 6:27 PM |
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Thanks RJS,
I present Lake Darwin Dang it
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Darwin 
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Posted: June 8, 2007 6:30 PM |
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RJS,
They may act like they do not know who Darwin is, but trust me they know.
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Darwin 
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Posted: June 8, 2007 6:52 PM |
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Guys,
Darwin is not my real name. The real Darwin knew long ago what was real. Thats why I took that name. Mars has water. The young man that grew up in North Carolinia saw the same.
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RJS 
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Posted: June 8, 2007 7:11 PM |
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That's ok; really. My name isn't RJS either.
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Darwin 
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Posted: June 8, 2007 7:18 PM |
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Rjs,
It dont mater. The scientist in us is prowd. Like Winston said. A free exchange. You guys could say you once spared with Darwin. Thays right.
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hortonheardawho
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Posted: June 8, 2007 7:22 PM |
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Oppy sol 290:
Part of the Burns Cliff panorama.
Er, this is on quite a slope. |
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LWS
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Posted: June 8, 2007 7:25 PM |
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Hi RJS
Thanks for pointing out the article. That's one of the great advantages of this forum, almost instant acces to breaking news on the rovers.
I am happy to see that Ron Levin, who I admire greatly, is now catching up with information that I and a few others discussed over two years ago on this forum.
I suspect the image in the article is from sol 291 or thereabouts, when Oppy was exiting Endurance crater. I have a colour composite of what I think is a nearby area in my photosite in my folder on "signs of water on Mars". That image was first posted and the discussion around it took place well over 1 year ago.
You can access the photosite by clicking on LWS on the left side of this post.
The image is here

I have a number of other images of puddles or microchannels on my photosite, some of which I think show better examples of ice or water than the one in the article you posted. Look in the folders "signs of water on Mars" and "Opportunity Images". I have a number of other composite earlier images on my old Homestead site which I haven't used for some time now but is still accessible.
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Darwin 
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Posted: June 8, 2007 7:26 PM |
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Guys,
When does the I told you so stop. Thats right. |
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Darwin 
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Posted: June 8, 2007 7:28 PM |
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Winston,
We just knew brother. This is a good day.
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Darwin 
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Posted: June 8, 2007 7:30 PM |
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Hort,
Good post. we love ya man.
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Darwin 
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Posted: June 8, 2007 7:40 PM |
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Well Heck,
Whats a drunken redneck to do. There are no more Mars forums to bust with anything.
Life aint fair.
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RJS 
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Posted: June 8, 2007 7:50 PM |
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Hi Winston & thanks for the kind words...
Great picture on Reply #14 Winston. Exactly what I would like to see. The more other "puddles" we can find, the more it helps support Levin's findings. Sorry that should have read "Darwin's findings". No disrespect intended.
Hi Hort, re reply #13... what did you mean by "Er, this is on quite a slope"? Is there too much of a slope to hold standing water?
Winston or Hort, how difficult would it be to duplicate the process that Levin went through re the overlaying of photos to confirm his findings? Now that he has done this, would this be a 6 month, 6 week, 6 day, 6 hour or 6 minute proceedure? Curious, that's all.
RJS
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hortonheardawho
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Posted: June 8, 2007 8:08 PM |
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Oppy sol L257R12 of "puddle" area:

If anyone is interested, I can check the PDF header to determine the camera pointing -- and from that and a little trig and a few distance measurments one can determine the "slope" -- but as I remember the area it is a healthy 20+ degrees. |
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