Asimo on Mars

The plan is to have sample return mission in ten years.

news.bbc.co.uk

Idea iself is wrong.
Too long research loop, several years only to get samples.

Sending several robots like Asimo with a lab would make for far better science.

They will also do much better than man on Mars and Moon.

And it can be done in couple years.

Asimo itself wouldn't be suitable. It can fall over even when walking up or down very carefully positioned stairs. Just a short fall can damage it. When it falls during a demo, the people attending it rapidly hide it behind a screen. They do this partly because an image of a fallen and damaged Asimo is bad for PR, but mainly, I think, because they don't want us to see that a fallen Asimo can't get up again without assistance.

But there are humanoid robots that can get up after falling. I think there might be a place on Mars for really tiny humanoid robots, like dolls. The smaller and lighter they are, the better. A small, light humanoid robot is less likely to damage itself when it falls over. It will be able to stand up again afterwards more easily than a heavy robot. And it's less likely to break through a surface crust and get stuck in fine dusty soil.

If they're small enough and light enough, we can send several to the same place. Then if one does get stuck, others can rescue it.

But they should be sent with a sample return capsule, rather than with a lab. Only when samples of Martian soil are in human hands will we be able to do a really rigorous analysis. Humans will be able to decide what experiment to perform second, based on the results of the first experiment. An automated lab can only perform the experiments that have been included on board. Maybe have an automated lab as well, as a backup, if payload limits allow. But sample return is much more important.

es and Martin>>>

go here for the latest in Robots.

http://www.androidworld.com/

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dx

dx,

Thanks for the link.
At least they all have two hands, that can manipulate tools - unlike the Phoenox.

es

DX, interesting site, lots of different androids and android parts, but I wouldn't call it "the latest in Robots". The owner seems to have lost interest. Last update in April, most of the pages not updated in years, and most of the updates this year being political opinions rather than android-related stuff (Reality Check for Anti-War Activists, Pollsters prove they are INCOMPETENT (again), global warming..). So, nothing at all about Femisapien/Ema, for instance.

I've done a quick search for something that does keep up to date, and the best I've found so far is robots.net.

Martin,

The Artificial Intelligence is expected to have spectacular progress in next two-three decades. Planning of the space program without taking that into account, would be a huge mistake.

In space, robots will have advantages over human explorers, that will increase fast.

eS

Martin>>>

Thanks, I'll check your find out but I know what you mean about the other, I go there every few months for any new data, so I know what is stale and what is new. When I found it 10 or so years ago, it was bookmarked as interesting.

Asimo by Honda has been stopped. No more progress that I know of. The robot is built with all the latest Honda tech installed. They are basically for rent now. But other robots are being created and built.

I think at the early days of 'robots' the idea of 1 in every household was current thought. In Japan how could that be? There is barely enough room for humans taking up space. So, perhaps after the great Asimo was implemented during those past years, thoughts changed to a more rational approach to ownership. But certainly, if there is a need for robots on Mars and other planets etc...then they would be built for that purpose and not for any fancy tea and cookie delivery system.

Robots can be designed and built, that was the task at hand then and now that at least Aismo and others accomplished the difficulties and struggles of articulation we are comfortable with they have fallen by the wayside. However, it was a good 10 years of watching the various Asimos develop.

When there is a need for an exploratory planetary walking robot they will be built with a purpose in mind. And maybe that will be the only reason to build them, for a specific reason and not general purpose.

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dx

If you have to send a robot, send Big Dog.

But far better to send human beings.

Dog is not so good as a 6 limb insect, that could use two limbs as hands.

The point is that we definitely can create a robotic agent that would be able to operate on Mars by spare commands from us.

eS

I will nominate myself to go to mars. but not under nasa. it has to be backed privately. and i need to have 24hr surveillance link though the internet and a weapons to kill the nasa reps first before they kill me and i need some sort of protection from missiles and the like. i dont trust them and either should YOU.....

es>>>

for you.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/7549059.stm

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dx

Thanks, dx,

I needed some entertainment for sure.

Meanwhile I had developed and released the SAI Seed, that can be grown into Super AI.
A robot with Super Human Mind will be hard to beat

Are you a software develper? I recall that Horton is.

Anyone can accessthe Seed and start growing it - at SAI Seed download

eS

es>>>

Very glad to enlighten your day.

NO. I am nowhere near a 'software developer' but a very sophisticated SR. designer in Architecture, far removed from the guts and other innards of computer chips and software work. My life is in the visual realm and the future of thinking with action attached, hence: design-mind.

Wanna build a rocketship, I can design it?

BTW>>>es, what is an SAI Seed?

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dx

dx,

SAI Seed is a seed of Super Strong Artificial Intelligence. It is a minimal application that provides means and support for extension of itself into Artificial Intelligence of unlimited strength.

eS