Confessions of a banned Unmanned Spaceflight member - Page 3

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Gregp1962 Author Profile Page

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PostPosted: September 2, 2006 11:07 PM 

If you want to know what's happening on Mars from people who know what's going on, go to UMSF. Thinkers are welcome there.

There is a TON of actual information there! NO constructive contributions are prohibited. I don't claim to know much. So, I don't contribute much there.

If you want to blow hot air, stay here in

brian Author Profile Page

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PostPosted: September 3, 2006 3:54 AM 

I have been a fan of both forums for years. But I do note that on this one, contributors such as Henry, Marsman, Horton etc have actually compiled and assessed data, for example developing statistical plots of the berry size distribution and attampting to analyse these. Marsman's investigation of the effect of the magnetic influence on ball bearings did much to explain the berry strings and clumping. And Horton - definitely the best picture processing I have seen.
Unmanned Spaceflight has more contributors of late...but little if any real analysis. I for one appreciate the policy of Mark and Richard which allows any contribution, no matter how far fetched, to receive 'air time'. I shall cintinue to frequent both forums - but this one is definitely my favourite.

Gregp1962 Author Profile Page

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PostPosted: September 3, 2006 5:53 PM 


I stand corrected. There are a few, such as Horton, who are good contributors. (BTW, he's in the other forum as well)

I used to come to this forum much more. After a while, I got tired of sifting through the mess to find threads that actually have coherent discussion.

Forum Moderator Richard Author Profile Page

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PostPosted: September 4, 2006 2:55 AM 

FREEDOM !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Mark Carey Author Profile Page

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PostPosted: September 4, 2006 8:46 AM 

KPM writes:
>I tried to post a new topic and it did not go through, is there a problem?

KPM, I need more details to help troubleshoot this. What form did you use? What forum were you posting to? What was the error message (if any)? Any other details that you can provide would be helpful...

KPM Author Profile Page

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PostPosted: September 4, 2006 4:56 PM 

Hi Mark

Tried to post a new main page topic as mentioned, it said page not available, there are no new posts on the main page only on the various Forum subjects, they seem to go through. That's all that came up, this has happened from work and home laptops.

I will try a test on the main page once more.

TTFN Smile

KPM Author Profile Page

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PostPosted: September 4, 2006 4:58 PM 

Won't post says page cannot be found. My Posts are reaching here.

Mark Carey Author Profile Page

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PostPosted: September 5, 2006 6:02 AM 

KPM, there is no such thing as a "main page topic" - all forum topics appear on the main page. Are you saying that you clicked the "new topic" button on the main home page, and used that form to post the topic? If so, which forum did you choose from the dropdown list? Also, what browser and version are you using? If you are using IE, what are your security settings? Is javascript enabled? Is a "trusted site"?

Mark Carey Author Profile Page

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PostPosted: September 5, 2006 6:51 AM 

KPM, I just made a few tweaks to the "new topic" forms, which may help. Please try again now...

KPM Author Profile Page

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PostPosted: September 5, 2006 9:19 AM 

Thanks Mark,

Yes it was a New Topic button and I have posted here before, I shall try again.



KPM Author Profile Page

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PostPosted: September 5, 2006 12:11 PM 

Hi Mark,

It's working once more, many thanks,


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PostPosted: January 15, 2008 4:40 PM 

I just successfully joined the Unmanned SpaceFlight Forum but it won't allow me to reply to any of the posts. The help sections were no help. Anybody have an idea what I might be able to do?


LWS Author Profile Page

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PostPosted: January 15, 2008 6:59 PM 

Unsubscribe and lurk


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PostPosted: January 15, 2008 11:59 PM 

Doug is a huge prick. His site is great for collecting photos, but it's sterile of anything truly creative. You get the feeling that you're inside a bottle of peroxide. If you dare to throw light onto anything, you're immediately exploded out of bounds.

All hail and praise to Mark Carey and Richard.

brian Author Profile Page

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PostPosted: January 16, 2008 2:56 AM 

What absolute rubbish. The fact that you of all people think that you are creative is astounding!!! Ever womder why world class scientists post on that site and not this one - AZ stand fast.

John. email Doug through the site. Sometime protection software rejects email addresses that are close to a spam site. Doug will fix it immediately.

KPM Author Profile Page

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PostPosted: January 16, 2008 9:36 AM 

I like this site the most however at the moment we cannot post a new subject and in all things are a bit slow.
We are MER driven and USF cover all sorts subjects and is busier John did you get your e-mail to say your registered?

hortonheardawho Author Profile Page

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PostPosted: January 16, 2008 9:47 AM 

Although the S/N is very low here, it is possible to present speculative ideas "outside the box" without being banned -- or formally warned and threatened with banning.

<philosophical diseradatum>

The consequence of total freedom is anarchy - and that of total control is slavery -- so assuming that neither extreme is desirable, a "middle way" is required in human affairs.

The sticky part is choosing the "right" evaluation function to optimize human relationships.

Perhaps the best specification -- so far - of the optimization function requirement is

"Treat others as you would like to be treated."

This idea is central to a stable human dynamic -- for the simple reason that such a self-reflexive function will per force converge to a single fixed point, since the two "players" ( self / other are the same player -- and thus a Nash equilibrium is guaranteed.

</philosophical diseradatum>

I personally prefer self-control with an adjustable homeostatic set point and hope that others will choose the same function -- but that's just me.

On a personal note, I am now in a difficult region of my personal phase space and have no desire to post anything anywhere -- although I am still following the MER missions and creating occasional "image products" - some of which I post to Flickr.


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PostPosted: January 17, 2008 3:02 AM 

"Unmanned spaceflight" is the gold standard for serious, competent, professional level discussion of the results of various space missions and their implications on the internet. Many of the people there are actually involved with running the missions or are the primary investigation teams.

If however one wants a discussion of ideas of the fringe from people mostly with no knowledge or experience of the subjects, but fertile imaginations and lots of enthusiasm, then come here. It might be more free ranging but the lack of rigor and discpline can be very frustrating.

The people who set up these fora own them, and have a right to run them how they see fit. If people don't like it, they don't have to visit them. If you do, then they abide by the rules.

BTW I used to contribute to UMSF but don't for a number of reasons. I still lurk there though. It is unsurpassed.


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PostPosted: January 18, 2008 10:39 AM 


Creativity is not always defined in "scientific " terms, nor can it explain everything.

Take the Fiesta Bowl game, for example. Could science [predict] that the [long shot would win,] AND predict the [winner's score?] It was the only game I called, out of 33 college bowl games, and seemed to reaffirm a curious statement that I made here, regarding the movie ["Oh God."(see reply 177)] Who starred in that movie? [Link to STAR] Wink

Science is interesting, but it's over rated, as I will continue to demonstrate here, and elsewhere. The Tower of Babel will fall one day, and when it does it will cut everyone on earth. "Science" won't be able to help or save anyone.

They're Rocks Author Profile Page

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PostPosted: January 23, 2008 4:04 PM 

*yawn* Place is the same as always, I see.

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