Richard Hoagland On Martian Revelation 2-5-05 - Page 7

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PostPosted: July 28, 2005 12:21 AM 

I did not realize I was in the company of so many smart fellers.

178?, 195?, surely then you can see right through the RCH snake oil.

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PostPosted: July 28, 2005 1:24 AM 

Anyone with an IQ above Barney the dinosaur's can see through the snake oil...

Andy G


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PostPosted: July 28, 2005 3:19 AM 

I'd like to think that anyone with a skin colour that isn't bright purple could see through Hoagland. Smile

Andy G

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PostPosted: July 28, 2005 3:41 AM 

I'd like to too, but when you read some of the adoring comments on his Blog obviously that's not the case. I swear if he said that NASA was hiding proof that the Moon really had been made of green cheese all along a dozen of his acolytes would scream "I KNEW it!!!!"

I just think it's a shame that when we are given new wonders every day - panoramas of Mars' landscapes (whatever their colour! They're all gorgeous!), close-ups of Enceladus' boulder-strewn surface, rainbows shining in Saturn's rings and pictures of comet's tumbling through space - some people have to blatantly and shamelessly make up things that are as ridiculous as they are fantastic. I simply can't get my head around it.

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PostPosted: July 28, 2005 4:52 AM 

I know what you mean, Stu.

I suspect future sociologists will find a wealth of material in the various conspiratorialists and their misguided beliefs in the 20th/early 21st centuries.

I think I would point the bulk of the blame at Vietnam and Watergate. Government - rather, the public perception of government - went from a positive view during the second world war and throughout much of the 50's to one of increasing disbelief and horror in the late 60's.

Nixon's ("I'm not a crook...") mobsterism of the early 70's led the way to Reagan, Clinton, Bush#1 and #2 all lining their own pockets (and more importantly the pockets of their friends) which just looks evil to the man in the street, whatever their political persuasions.

Where governments go, big business/organisations follow. Enron, for example. It's impossible NASA wouldn't be tarred with the same brush..."they must be somehow corrupt." Hoagland and others build on this to make a buck and feed (mislead) the public.

NASA's additionally saddled with the fact that to understand what they do (on a level beyond enjoying the amazing pictures and events) requires a scientific mind. You can't simply "feel" that a shuttle will get into orbit without some idea of delta-V, isp, exhaust velocity and the rest of it. The dumbing-down of education - and here in the UK educationalists were discussing last week to change the word "failure" to "deferred success" in classes - does NASA no good at all.

Naturally a dumbed-down public make for easier prey for the TV networks. Why broadcast, for example, a 50 minute lecture on a scientific topic when a soundbite and sensationalism will attract more viewers?

I despair.

CP Snow's concept of "Two Cultures" has never been more valid...

Andy G

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PostPosted: August 6, 2005 4:46 AM 

my real iq is 22. I only said that it was 195 so you would like me! I believe everyword of RCH and adore him as a god-like entity. I would love to understand things like the art of tooth brushing, but my mami ain't perty enouf ta get pa ta buy the bristly thingys ya put tha paste on. One Time i dun threw a banjo inta thu sky an hit a martian space man in tha hed. he fel down an hurt his self on thu gravel in our frunt yard. Please tell me why I have a donkey. My mami sayz it is cuz I is dum.

iq 195


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PostPosted: August 6, 2005 4:57 AM 

Hee hee banjo in the sky.... Rolling Eyes Embarassed Wink Crying or Very Sad Mad Confused Laughing Sad Surprised Shocked Twisted Evil Evil or Very Mad Wink Crying or Very Sad Razz Confused Smile Sad Surprised Shocked Confused Very Happy Rolling Eyes Here is a picture of my donnkey with the martian on his back for all of you non believers out there!

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PostPosted: August 6, 2005 5:26 AM 

here is a gansta rap all about the martian invasion which thanks to you non believers is now eminent. "turky flying solo, beluga in the sky. filthy nicker bolo, tupelo is fine. Takin' lots of dollars , pilfer, bill, and, swipe. martian on my window, insta ready tripe. polo till you repo, somethin' full of grime, martian try to come here juice em up with lime!

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