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Darwin







PostPosted: November 26, 2018 12:27 PM 


Business is about to pick-up. Let's hope for a successful landing.

Que the "image guy."

Darwin


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PostPosted: November 26, 2018 12:45 PM 

Ups...looks like I made a mess...

Darwin


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PostPosted: November 26, 2018 1:53 PM 

Sad. This was indeed Hort's forum.

John Radogno


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PostPosted: November 26, 2018 3:45 PM 

First image from Insight.

Darwin


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PostPosted: November 27, 2018 2:10 AM 

Thanks John, clear images are out. Will be good to get underground thermal profiles.

John Radogno


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PostPosted: November 27, 2018 3:10 PM 

Another image from Insight:

Joe Smith


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PostPosted: November 28, 2018 12:41 AM 

lighting is more like it.

Darwin


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PostPosted: November 28, 2018 5:25 AM 

Wow, nice picture.....

Joe Smith


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PostPosted: November 29, 2018 8:09 PM 

so much of it in a protective shell.oh well... there must be something* interesting about it mmm ahah

Bill


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PostPosted: December 8, 2018 6:58 AM 

Please God let this be the last non rover mission to Mars !

Darwin


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PostPosted: December 10, 2018 9:22 AM 

I just talked to God. He said no.

John Radogno


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PostPosted: December 10, 2018 1:39 PM 

Yeah, I am looking forward to the first land and return mission.

Dana Johnson


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PostPosted: December 27, 2018 3:59 PM 

No droplets on legs, what was the propellant used?

John Radogno


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PostPosted: December 27, 2018 7:45 PM 

I think there were special circumstances in the Martian Arctic that allowed those drops to stick to the Phoenix Lander.

The fuel was hydrazine, and it created a blast zone on the ground:

This image, I think, shows the extent of the landing blast zone in the upper portion of the image:

Dana Johnson


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PostPosted: February 26, 2019 6:24 PM 

Weather patterns. Daily and periodic.

https://arstechnica.com/science/2019/02/some-weird-things-are-happening-with-air-pressure-on-mars/

https://mars.nasa.gov/insight/weather/

This may be table thumping of fingers for a news story assignment by the reporter. I see a very stable pattern of temperature, radiation, pressure, and wind direction. A diurnal pattern powered and clear. Is there a real mystery here as claimed in the article? It appears radiation causes wind from the Southwest, and stalling causes wind from the Northwest. No information on vertical flow differences.
Someone here must read this in detail? It is wintertime at the INSIGHT location.

https://www.weather.gov/source/zhu/ZHU_Training_Page/winds/Wx_Terms/Flight_Environment.htm

danajohnson0


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PostPosted: February 27, 2019 3:38 PM 

Are the effects of frost visible as notches on the chart? A winter 'storm'?

Sol 90 and 91.

https://mars.nasa.gov/insight/weather/

Obviously we need access to a continuous record of more than three day reports combined.

John Radogno


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PostPosted: February 28, 2019 8:34 PM 

test

Dana Johnson


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PostPosted: March 4, 2019 12:48 PM 

A shame we are treated to a weather reportage system held in a dark closet for apparently the duration of the mission. Important weather events are underway, and we will read about it in later years from others interpretations. This is no different than the local social systems of many regions of the world where we are not allowed to participate in the decisions of local politics. This is not normal 'open access' as a standard but possibly we will have the information after it is archived. Then again, possibly not even then. Does anyone dare to complain?
This change was promised to me in years past.

John Radogno


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PostPosted: March 4, 2019 2:31 PM 

Test:

Dana Johnson


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PostPosted: March 5, 2019 5:29 PM 

With the dozens of international groups responsible for this mission, a full release of news and results is more than could be developed apparently. The new obstruction of the 'mole' burrowing may be a problem worse than any delay in weather results. The 15 degree tilt is not the most extreme that was possible as I remember, but the foreground rock in your entry John, may be indicating a rock pile buried by dust or a layer unexpected. Two weeks to wait for additional news on that.

https://www.nasa.gov/feature/jpl/mars-insight-landers-mole-pauses-digging

Sols 88, 90, and now upcoming release of a swing to an average temperature of -68 degrees, could be news items from the scant few weeks listings.

There seems to be procedural delay in the information inbound. Space weather or a regional change of weather? A processing adjustment? Not enough detail in the news forthcoming as yet. The SW wind seems to be powering the minimum temperature increases as well as the lowering of pressure.

Is the radiation, frost sublimation, or air column cycling powering a SW wind?

Perhaps they are seeing dust devils in the once per second instrument results from these current averages.

The mole stuck at a shallow depth might be an opportunity to clear up detailed surface changes affecting the dust devil formation features as well as the daily weather patterns.

https://mars.nasa.gov/insight/weather/

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PostPosted: March 23, 2019 3:29 PM 

Lack of published full weather reports for sol 109-112, the team working on the Mole problem seem to be actively taking measurements and working a short period of hammering to study whether the Mole has moved the obstruction it encountered.

Average temperatures are varying far greater than the highs and lows for the weather reporting.

https://www.dlr.de/blogs/en/desktopdefault.aspx/tabid-5893/9577_read-1090/

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