Origin of Life on Mars? - Page 19

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Faceless


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PostPosted: July 30, 2018 11:02 PM 

Regarding reply 360, "near perfect circles can happen naturally", but geological processes do not produce numerous near perfect circles smaller than 100 micrometers.
Numerous Martian mammalian red blood cells and blood vessels are described in [link]

Faceless


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PostPosted: July 31, 2018 2:52 AM 

John, no one has evidence to prove that geology formed the nearly perfect circles shown in the above link.

John Radogno


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PostPosted: July 31, 2018 12:49 PM 

Faceless,
It is clear it is just a rock. There is no limit to how small circular like depressions can form.
You are just making up a story about the blood cells and blood veins the same way you did with columnar basalt that you claimed was artificially made with out doing the most basic thing in science, research on the known science of these structures.
I still remember how crazy you were in insisting that right after Curiosity brushed an area on a rock you insisted the brush marks were blood veins.

And in one of your most telling incidents to confirm your bias for fantasy you posted this image in a vain attempt to prove the entire science community of geologist in the world are wrong about columnar basalt by posting this image to prove that the columns did not have horizontal lines:

Proving yourself to be completely wrong. It proves that you are blinded to reality. Don't you ever get embarrassed?

Faceless


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Reply: 364



PostPosted: August 1, 2018 3:11 AM 

John, fake news never ends.
Nothing in reply 363 disproves my claims in
[link]
or in
[link]

Faceless


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Reply: 365



PostPosted: August 1, 2018 10:15 AM 

Are these rocks on Mars?
[link]

John Radogno


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Reply: 366



PostPosted: August 1, 2018 10:41 AM 

Faceless, Yes those are rocks. The vertical structures are a result of the porosity of the rock that allows small amounts of water to travel through it and re-mineralize the sediment in the process. Gravity is the force that that pulls the process straight down.

John Radogno


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PostPosted: August 1, 2018 12:56 PM 

Faceless,
I am sure the circles you refer to are just small depressions. We can not magnify the picture and zooming in to a pixel level will not help in seeing how round they are.
Fossilized raindrops can make near perfect to perfect circles as one example. Conditions on Mars are much, much different than on Earth, allowing for much more delicate and small features:

How they are made:

BTW, notice the abundance of 90 degree angles; very common in nature!

Faceless


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PostPosted: August 2, 2018 1:00 AM 

Theories are a dozen a dime. Which scientist said E=MC2 is incorrect? Which scientist said there was Moon Hoax?

Faceless


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PostPosted: August 2, 2018 1:13 AM 

My reply 368 refers to John's reply 366. As to John's reply 367, one must consider many things at the same time, including the material's concentration (density), the sizes, the uniformity of the circular shapes, the depth of the depression. In short, there is no evidence at all as I said before in reply 362. Don't waste your time looking for evidence.

John Radogno


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Reply: 370



PostPosted: August 2, 2018 1:33 AM 

Relativity is real. There is nothing scientific about the Moon Hoax; The technology to fake the moon landing was not available when Armstrong landed on the moon. The doppler effects of the radio communications the were tracked by independent facilities and even ham radio operators around the world. There was no way to fake the changing doppler effects. The science is in the exploration the astronauts did while on the moon. The science is about the engineering that got them there. Theories that are backed up by solid evidence are very valuable.

John Radogno


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PostPosted: August 2, 2018 1:48 AM 

My posts #366 & #367 are just examples of the many ways nature works. The idea is to help you understand how things actually work to help you get out of your fantasy world. I spent a lot of time helping you understand columnar basalt to no avail. All of the posts were not about proving you wrong. Your idea of ancient humans living 300 million years ago is already indisputable proven to be false. The fossil record of human evolution is very robust ad ever growing. There is nothing you can do about it. I put in the time and work only to help you. Your refusal to accept the help, accept the obvious reality is the hallmark of a very superstitious and unreasonable personality. Sorry, but if nature can do it, then nature is doing it.

John Radogno


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PostPosted: August 2, 2018 1:49 AM 

Faceless/Lin,
By the way, your post #330 is disgusting. It is bad enough that you have no respect for actual science and the the thousands of real scientists who do great work every day, but the pure hate you are expressing toward Neil Armstrong is over the top and does not belong on a science blog.

Who do you think you are that you can say who is who is suffering in hell. Are you so pompous to think you have the divine powers of a god?

LWS


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PostPosted: August 2, 2018 3:33 PM 

John;

I've been looking recently at several pictures of sedimentary boxwork rocks in the USA and Australia. They are indistinguishable visually from their analogues in Gale crater, except perhaps in size. Some of the Earth boxwork rock samples have been characterized as being examples of ancient stromatolites.

Could it be that, taken in conjunction with the geological research that indicates that there is a ubiquitous layer of extremely slowly metabolizing microbes found in deep ocean cores and that many of the images that we have from Curiosity could be of objects shaped with some input from microbial life of millions / billions of years ago, that perhaps some of that life might even be alive today? on Mars as well as the Earth?

Winston.

Darwin


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PostPosted: August 2, 2018 5:02 PM 

Winston,

Glad to see you posting. You got me jizzed up with that damp rock. We have seen multiple liguid springs and outgassing vents in Gale, a localized microbial feesta even today. We were right brother, all those years ago.

Darwin

Darwin


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PostPosted: August 2, 2018 5:21 PM 

John,

To guote Hort you are a great,"rock guy." You are also a great teacher. Faceless has confused "belief," with "certainty." He has in effect seperated himself from reality.

Darwin

John Radogno


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PostPosted: August 2, 2018 5:42 PM 

Winston,
Finding large bodies of liquid water, even very salty water, as has been recently confirmed, increases the possibility for past present and future life on Mars. Stromatolites and microbial mat look-a-likes appear in numerous images from the rovers. They just might really be what they look like. Fossilization may have happened over a shorter or longer period than on Earth because of radically different conditions. What would this blown over microbial mat on Earth look like if it was fossilized on Mars? It looks like a gas build up blew off the top:

I think it would look similar to the folded over mat that Nora Noffke identified in her analysis.

Here are some other Earth comparisons:

Joe Smith


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PostPosted: August 2, 2018 6:58 PM 

anyone know right off how much higher we have to go before the large boxlike structures?

Yes,,, Really good to see you back Winston!!!

LWS


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PostPosted: August 4, 2018 4:24 PM 

Have any of the MRB regulars seen Gil Levin's latest article?

See below:-

http://gillevin.com/Mars/Partially_Pregnant_as_Submitted.pdf

Winston

John Radogno


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PostPosted: August 4, 2018 7:00 PM 

Thanks for the link Winston.
I just read it. It is probably right about the various landers, and even crashed landers contaminating Mars. After the current planet wide dust storm, the chance of finding Earth Biology just about anywhere on Mars , making it more difficult to find those exclusive life friendly niches here actual Mars Microbes may be found.

John

LWS


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PostPosted: August 4, 2018 10:31 PM 

John;

I think I might be onto something important re. understanding the influence of certain microbes on the precipitation of carbonates and sulphates in relatively stagnant water held in cracks in rocks.

I think veins (like gypsum veins) under certain environments may hold the key.

Winston

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