Origin of Life on Mars? - Page 13

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Dana Johnson


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PostPosted: December 5, 2017 12:02 AM 

https://www.wur.nl/en/newsarticle/Earthworms-can-reproduce-in-Mars-soil-simulant.htm

Dana Johnson


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PostPosted: December 5, 2017 10:35 PM 

Interesting display of motion currents during phase transition on the surface of soap bubbles in declining temperature. The appearance is local movement causing the 'mini global currents' on the bubble surface. Is this occuring in Mars slopes during daily temperature transitions? Would the pressure and sublimation liquidation effect produce slides and RSL, or the minor
movement of crust? Can gas in salt brine produce similar visible motion?

https://www.sciencenews.org/article/how-freezing-soap-bubble-turns-it-snow-globe?tgt=more

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PostPosted: December 6, 2017 11:48 PM 

For those on the blog whose spirit is untamed, the article here and especially the followup comments are an important lesson in both pluralism inclusion and diplomacy we neglect often. The concept loosely is life has adaptation or pre-written, wired, capabilities that exceed human current capabilities, giving our confidence in the description of 'evolution' as our science. Life educates us as we watch and learn. We are followers currently.

https://www.sciencenews.org/article/scallops-amazing-eyes-use-millions-tiny-square-crystals-see

The research on soap bubble films in declining temperatures producing surface film currents of nucleating ice particles is interesting. Mars has a temperature swing through the range described, but at low pressure and gravity conditions. Is active ice or nucleating type movement capable of causing the RSL and slides we are watching on slopes? Is the liquifaction type adjustments under crusts caused by flat ice nucleating similarly, or related mineral activity? Is life necessary for the process to be sensible to us?

https://www.sciencenews.org/article/how-freezing-soap-bubble-turns-it-snow-globe?tgt=nr

Faceless


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PostPosted: December 15, 2017 4:35 AM 

NASA scientists mistook concrete for rocks and thought Bagnold Dune never had much water. So, NASA scientists thought ooids were unlikely to exist in Bagnold Dune.
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PostPosted: December 16, 2017 12:34 AM 

Sorry, please disregard reply 244.

Joe Smith


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PostPosted: December 17, 2017 7:49 AM 

You have a nice, interesting web page Wretch.

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PostPosted: December 17, 2017 10:27 AM 

Joe, your lord is great.

Dana Johnson


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PostPosted: December 18, 2017 8:57 PM 

While NASA and Earth observers are mostly concentrating on the physical science results of the rovers and landers, the appearance of small ordered items gives us a suggestion of possible results not found in the rudimentary chemistry from instruments.
The concept of bio-precipitation was considered a far from routine event decades past. now it is an industry based upon clear evidence.
Biology clearly induces weather and planetary modulation of our surface existence. Curiously we have a record of possibly unique planet scale surface events which possibly could have been influenced by simple biology in conjunction with environmental leverage. Just another suggestion, not a demand for acceptance prior to testable evidence.
On Mars the open suggestions from recent information leads toward possible bio-modulation of image content details. The PDF is download available.

http://advances.sciencemag.org/content/2/4/e1501630.full

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PostPosted: December 18, 2017 9:23 PM 

Thanks for the link Dana.
Known conditions on Mars does suggest that bacterium such as P. syringae may be able to survive on the planet, and as such may be able to effect the environment and landscapes we see. More research is needed!

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PostPosted: December 18, 2017 9:36 PM 

Rover Curiosity is finally using wet chemistry in SAM tonight:
https://mars.jpl.nasa.gov/msl/mission/mars-rover-curiosity-mission-updates/?y=2017#newsArchivePage

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PostPosted: December 18, 2017 11:48 PM 

What is science, and when is it real for us? If simple patterns match observations, but an industry is causing the observations, is the research timely, or a source of noise, and where is the actual science happening? Public or private science, which is best?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BVQM3m8cNqQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pH-afIrfUbQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TbUaz-oYxuo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K6e3_Cwwq74

Seeing a few simple videos was easy on the mind, but there are youtube videos which are less obvious and seemingly designed to bring up a later date for a understanding of the industry of climate control knowledge and activity.
About 16 to 19 minutes in, the information was hinted at, but then became a diverging set of possibilities with no return to a suggestion of the state of human and biological dominion of weather control by industry and biology.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W8JZsvcWBZI

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PostPosted: December 20, 2017 11:19 PM 

Many complex organics may have been found in the sand grains scooped from Ogunquit:
"A final note, we got some terrific news from SAM this morning that their first wet chemistry experiment on Mars ran successfully! Over the last few sols, the SAM team mixed some of the sample we've been carrying around since our investigation at Ogunquit Beach with special chemicals called "derivatization agents" that are designed to make certain molecules easier to detect. I'm looking forward to hearing the results of their experiment once they complete their analyses!" QUOTED FROM
https://mars.jpl.nasa.gov/msl/mission/mars-rover-curiosity-mission-updates/?mu=sols-1911-1912-filling-up-on-pre-holiday-data-treats

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PostPosted: December 22, 2017 10:17 AM 

Date of page creation 12/22/17

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PostPosted: December 22, 2017 10:18 AM 

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PostPosted: December 22, 2017 10:26 AM 

Broken Drill..........

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PostPosted: December 22, 2017 1:08 PM 

Facless spoke:
Joe, your Lord is great.
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What a wonderful thing to say!

Dana Johnson


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PostPosted: December 22, 2017 10:31 PM 

If calcium sulfate is common here, and if it is also the basis for the center of some Spider cores, is this a chemistry activity, or physical suseptible erosion with the CO2?

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PostPosted: December 26, 2017 12:46 AM 

Weathered ooids and spherical ooids found on the top of Vera Rubin Ridge, Mount Sharp:
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PostPosted: December 26, 2017 11:48 AM 


If calcium sulfate is common here, and if it is also the basis for the center of some Spider cores, is this a chemistry activity, or physical suseptible erosion with the CO2?
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Very good Question, Dana.....and deserves a good answer,,, I'll get right on to it! (kidding)

We have lot more questions (good ones!) than we do answers....

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PostPosted: January 7, 2018 12:10 AM 

Mars Rover Curiosity Successfully Performed First-Time Wet Chemistry Experiment.
Quoted from Paragraph 19 in [link]
"What did they find? Ashwin appropriately wouldn't tell me anything specific, but he did say the experiment was successful, and that they saw things in the Ogunquit Beach sample that they hadn't seen in the previous, dry evolved-gas experiments. Stay tuned for science, possibly as early as the Lunar and Planetary Science Conference meeting in March, if the SAM team can figure out what their instrument is telling them by then."

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