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PostPosted: August 27, 2017 3:28 AM 

A cross high up on Mount Sharp:
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Dana Johnson


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PostPosted: August 28, 2017 7:03 PM 

A curiosity research result stated as "unexpected' by researchers, a fairly simple process of oxygen release from very low pressure water vapor, leaving no changes to the original oxide material.
Could a similar natural 'perovskite' type mineral on Mars provide a living system with the capability to survive one of the deficiencies in the ice and vapor transition zone?
So much is happening in research currently. Hopefully research will not slow during the next few years.

http://news.mit.edu/2016/water-vapor-sets-some-oxides-aflutter-1003

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PostPosted: August 28, 2017 8:43 PM 

Another release indicating nighttime snowfall with downdraft force. A source of water frost for water vapor, during times not observed. Curiously it is determined for water ice and not CO2.

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PostPosted: August 28, 2017 9:22 PM 

Sketch diagramming the general process by James Tuttle Keane through Google Sketch-Up and publication Nature. Original paper by Aymeric Spiga and others.

http://www.nature.com/articles/ngeo3023.epdf?shared_access_token=e3yZiIaB65VmYDHoUrdxqtRgN0jAjWel9jnR3ZoTv0NpPM547Fquug7e4QS8y8X8MT7AtCBrIwq__wRhLREMlaThX_aOK8s6vrY7bonCYPDtaFt6bZSS08ZYfeseNBP1va8QT4jDbB5rkK9wICY7dw%3D%3D

danajohnson0


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PostPosted: September 1, 2017 5:51 PM 

What is this as a story- real or just journalism?

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Faceless


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PostPosted: September 6, 2017 4:17 AM 

Re 205, human beings first appeared on Earth 359 million years ago. The following human fossil is over 300 million years old:
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Barsoomer


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PostPosted: September 7, 2017 8:51 PM 

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Curi discovers Boron, needed to make RNA, which is believed to have preceded DNA in the origin of life.

Faceless


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PostPosted: September 9, 2017 4:21 AM 

Martian masonry?
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Dana Johnson


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PostPosted: September 13, 2017 10:33 AM 

The contentious evidence that is not resolved in many sources and over time could be dealt with in a detailed way, but even in the many MER images that indicate fossil and non-Earth origins of evidence is not resolved as we pass the items.

The Bounce Rock evidence is strong, but dropped from human view. Seeing detailed impressions or cast in place detailed objects in rocks on Mars exists, yet it has not been the center of concerns for the teams making the schedules.
Public study of evidence can resolve the questions and best final decisions.

Faceless


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PostPosted: September 14, 2017 1:23 AM 

Re 209, the science team of Curiosity rover did not want to study femur fossil in Gale Crater:
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PostPosted: September 14, 2017 1:47 AM 

News article about possible civilization on Mars:
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PostPosted: September 15, 2017 10:55 AM 

An apparent artifact from Vera Rubin Ridge:
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Faceless


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PostPosted: September 20, 2017 12:43 AM 

RBC/BV on Vera Rubin Ridge?
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Faceless


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PostPosted: September 29, 2017 10:54 AM 

4-billion-year-old fossil contains mammalian red blood cells:
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Dana Johnson


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PostPosted: September 30, 2017 10:24 PM 

I observe science as much art as information patterns. I observe history as a heavily filtered object, and a mystery as much as fact.
In another topic I have presented a view of the earthquakes for this past week totaled for the week and viewed through a transparent Earth globe. The appearance is of a 'Lissajous' pattern. The pattern represents the active portion of the Earth seismic history, and it is a repeated pattern which is real.
Several on the blog have discounted the appearance as either not possible as a 'Lissajous' information display or not of importance as a pattern. I am interested in whether the item of information is accepted more after a few years of time from my initial presentation on the blog, or whether it is assumed that I am making a scene of a simple analogy of pattern. I find the importance of several views of the Earth and the patterns displayed as very important. Is this view significant or not valuable information?
In the past I have presented a view of gravity fluctuations matching between Mars and Earth. I have also presented a view of Earth's active tectonics movement matching the patterns which match both Earth's and Mars gravity patterns.
If Mars and Earth match in many details would we expect both to match in other related aspects of geology and surface activity?
The activity of the patterns which we are observing are current, yet Mars albedo and erosion and geology formations match Earth's weather patterns in detail.
Many aspects of the two planets seem to match.
We are searching for patterns of life on Mars, searching for a similarity to Earth's life over billions of years time.
Does the appearance of this 'lissajous' assembly of active tectonics indicate a real aspect of Earth's display of value in science, or is this a non-valuable piece of information?
Is Earth bound to this series of patterns over hundreds of millions of years, even billions of years as a stable display? Is Mars similarly bound to this same series of patterned information in the same timing?
As some believe life is related to the planets history, and others believe that life is more a matter of information patterning and related to the potential for information to be displayed at great intervals of time and circumstance, is it best to be denying the patterns as they occur or accepting the mystery as simply not yet sufficient for a conclusion?
What is the best description for this appearance at this fixed viewpoint on Earth?

First a JPG, then a GIF.

The topic page where the images are presented as related to a NASA site on satellite results. Similar satellite results show Mars has many of Earth's characteristics.

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PostPosted: September 30, 2017 10:38 PM 

The topic address promised at reply 215.

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Are there similar patterns in the Mars geology which may be conditioning whether we see the possible records of life in Mars? On Earth we know massive quantities of life caused the preservation of records to be easy to see, whereas Mars may have had a very limited locale or population of preserved life's records. The possible presence of human type life would likely be limited in exposure or even eliminated by a series of efforts or global patterns which conditioned ancient evidence.
Do we receive and respond correctly to information patterns when they are seen?

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PostPosted: October 1, 2017 8:34 AM 

Dana

Great questions!

Winston

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PostPosted: October 2, 2017 11:05 AM 

I included the images and the questions as the Medusa Fossae formation is in the news as a region of high readings being suspected of water ice content and viewed at smaller resolution than previously. The region has a portion of the Dichotomy zone which gives a surface pattern resembling a Lissajous pattern but seen flat at the visible surface rather than 3D as in my views of Earth at reply 215.
I had mentioned it previously yet some persons 'feel' compelled to deny the information rather than taking the information as a investigative offer. A lack of critical study of apparent patterns whatever the subject seems to dominate the observers who have a stake in the results of ongoing science missions. Not a surprise really, but similar processes are causing political noise these days, and the lack of science resolution has become headliner material.
With the recent release of the study of new equatorial sources of water ice or similar material exposed, near these areas of apparent Lissajous patterns, with the Earth example as the largest single structure of water on Earth, the inclusion of study of patterns is important.
The two planets may have two differing causes for the pattern display, but new information suggests water and water ice or similar, are related to major geological displays of the Lissajous patterns, caused by forces and patterns of axis tilt, physics, or other causes.
Giving a careful appreciation for the information discussed would be appropriate for many of us who study shapes and patterns, large and small.
It would seem possibly the distance from the Sun may be the reason that the patterns are oriented along the axis for Earth, yet along the equator for Mars.
Am I wrong, and is the pattern a indicator of the prevalence of warm wet life?

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https://www.jpl.nasa.gov/news/news.php?feature=6956

http://redplanet.asu.edu/?p=26059


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PostPosted: October 7, 2017 4:45 AM 

Symmetrical fossil found on Vera Rubin Ridge:
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PostPosted: October 10, 2017 3:56 AM 

Neuron remains found on Vera Rubin Ridge:
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