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LWS


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PostPosted: December 3, 2015 9:59 AM 

Here's an intruiging image from today's releases.

It shows an area that shows clear distinct holes that have appeared around a rock that has been evidently disturbed by Curi's wheels. An area near the wheel, which can be seen in the image, appears to have been depressed by the wheel and shows the upward oozing of sub surface dirt while the holes appear to suggest that there is a void underneath the central rock.

Hmmm! Very interesting

Winston

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PostPosted: December 3, 2015 11:17 AM 

We got a good one today:
http://mars.jpl.nasa.gov/msl/multimedia/raw/?rawid=1176ML0053300060502536E01_DXXX&s=1176

lots of stuff going on there.

AZ-Dave


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PostPosted: December 3, 2015 11:18 AM 

crud, here it is:

AZ-Dave


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PostPosted: December 3, 2015 11:23 AM 

r lew: I think the white blob is overexposure of the bright white surface of whatever rock Curi disturbed, I need to scour and see if another navcam or something also shows it...we will never know what it is.

LW: Other people on "other" sites are also noticing the greens on the dunes...im still skeptical that its more due to initial mass-tampering (color re-calibration which seems to be the norm) with the data and what we get is non-true color views...these dunes are very dark compared to other areas curi been in, so they might have to tweak that algo to keep their washed-out views coming...curiously they Sky color in the MastCam has become more and more butterscotch over the past few weeks, meanwhile the skies in the MAHLI are really quite clear and Blue...quite pretty blues actually. so something is way off.

AZ-Dave


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PostPosted: December 3, 2015 11:29 AM 

Bars: That you for your comment on the pebbles...I may not have made myself entirely clear...so another try:

What Im looking at are the larger, brighter flakes and bits and pieces that are sitting up on the small dune itself...in order for these to get on top of the sand/dune, they had to be moved there (rather than exhumed from under the sand)
In other words, we are seeing the exact opposite of erosion exposing buried items, and are seeing evidence of larger things being moved up and onto smaller-grained deposits.

LWS


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PostPosted: December 3, 2015 12:42 PM 

Az-Dave;

Following on from my reply 1101;

The image also offers more confirmatory clues that the majority of the rocks are merely superficial.

What's going on underneath them? That image suggests it is partially a void. There is also a suggestion that the a small amount of material "exploded" out of at least one of the holes in the image. Look carefully and you will see it.

I'm adding it to my proofs for my thesis that there is a niche under many rocks where different atmospheric conditions exist as compared with the real atmosphere.

Winston.

AZ-Dave


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PostPosted: December 3, 2015 3:21 PM 

LWS: Im really glad you brought up possible different atmospheric conditions under rocks.
Also in the new pic you and I posted (I didnt see you posted, my apologies) - there is a very odd/unnatural looking curving crack right thru the lower right rock ending in a small hole...the interesting thing is that its blurry, and doesnt really look like a hole...just a black line with a dot at the end (like a black sperm shape)

Perhaps there are pockets of frozen CO2 which sublimate quickly when disturbed, or some other type of frozen hydrate, like we have in the oceans here on Earth,,,??

AZ-Dave


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PostPosted: December 3, 2015 3:34 PM 

This image is Up and to the Right of the Pic showing the cracked crusted-sand:

Look at the very bottom middle of the image...I see what appears to be a thin wavy-like object that has different color, and might even be translucent...is this possibly frozen brine that comes up and out of sub-surface? (to the left of the rock that is immediately left of the wheel)
This object is also shown exactly in the center far right portion of the other image.

LWS


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PostPosted: December 3, 2015 5:27 PM 

AZ-Dave

Here's an enhancement of your reply 1108 image.

I think the feature is just a crack in the crust caused by the breakage and displacement of the rock near to the wheel.

Winston

LWS


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PostPosted: December 3, 2015 5:29 PM 

AZ dave I think it is a crack in the soil crust caused by Curi's wheel breaking the rock next to the wheel

Winston

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PostPosted: December 4, 2015 3:41 PM 

Its the wavy (godzilla-spine-like) feature located immediately next to the black crack at the very bottom center of the image...your enhancement shows it even more vivid...its definitely extruding up over the surface, above the crack you could say...I would post a close up so we are looking at same thing, but...I dont have flicker acct yet.

AZ-Dave


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PostPosted: December 7, 2015 11:00 AM 

Some very interesting things in this image, more fragile cantilevering objects (lower right), and the a very interesting crustation-like formations about 1/3rd the way up on the right side of the image. As well as some tubular shaped items. But by the looks of things, they have moved on and into the dunes...

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PostPosted: December 8, 2015 12:06 PM 

https://www.flickr.com/photos/105796482@N04/23397056192/sizes/o/

This is from a really talented guy at unmanned spacecraft, 2 objects just stick out, and im really beginning to think things are "not what they first appear to be"...that translucent wavey-leaf-like object - located exactly at the intersection of the right 2 frames is extending above the surface just above a black crack...I think its possibly ice, or a wafer of evaporated brine. Then in the far upper left corner we see a clast-like sphere, supported on a tiny thin column over the surface of the sand.

Im fairly positive they took a heck of a lot more imaged of this areas that are not released...This really appears to be "Active" processes occurring!!

AZ-Dave


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PostPosted: December 8, 2015 12:13 PM 

http://i.imgur.com/wvoP6JX.gif

Wow...the wind selectively moves only larger clasts/particles and only in random direction.

uh huh.

Time to really re-think everything mars...wind did not move the moving objects in this multi-day set of pics...and what did NASA know to make them even want to do this set of images.

LWS


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PostPosted: December 8, 2015 12:35 PM 

AZ-Dave

Nice!

The movement of the pale small particle is interesting but the smaller dark one is just phenomenal!

Wonder how they'll explain it?

Winston

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PostPosted: December 15, 2015 2:23 PM 

The scientists on the "other" forum are saying either "Vibration caused by Curi rolling nearby or WIND" - Yeah...not.

And then there is this Gem: Lower Right corner...Is that wet/damp soil in the egg-shaped eroded specimen?

LWS


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PostPosted: December 15, 2015 4:33 PM 

AZ-Dave

That figures
But here is my take on the blob in a cup image from your last post. Thanks. Good eyes. I did not catch that one.

That whole image has a number of characteristic MISS features. But this is the first time I'm seeing veins forming a cup shaped feature which somehow captures a muudy blob that is a different colour to the prevailing fines around. There also seems to be a number of other instances of small pieces of mud with the same colouration.

Interesting!

Winston

LWS


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PostPosted: December 15, 2015 4:37 PM 

Oops wrong image!

This should be the correct one.

Winston

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PostPosted: December 15, 2015 10:48 PM 

What I think is "funny" is that NASA decided to zoom in to a completely different "un-eventful" area, and take about 50 ChemCam pics...ignoring that patch of dark soil in the lower right corner.

I also noticed several images taken last week of wheel tracks, where square blobs of sand and soil were pressed and dropped out of the wheel, and held there shape on top of other sand...thats really hard to do without the soil being wet...I cant do it at the beach with dry sand...

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PostPosted: December 15, 2015 10:58 PM 

The egg-shaped vein-like feature really appears to be one complete object/feature, and it really appears to be eroded, or the top broken (where did it go?)

That dark spot is absolutely not a shadow, and it even appears to extend out past the lower left quadrant.

Im 100% sure NASA saw this...at some point, there will be so many compelling images, that they will have to start changing the official meme...

I also saw more "Tubular" objects, some of them clustered in the past 10 SOL's...Im not saying what they are, but several look pretty much exactly like what my cut up mesquite tree limbs look like...

almost too much stuff to look at in some of these images. and I have to keep my "real" job...so I cant categorize and classify everything...wish I could.

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