Mars Article

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Fred







PostPosted: February 7, 2014 6:28 AM 


My presence here is limited because of periodic obsession. Targeted writings to promote this blog have been ongoing. this has also allowed me to focus my understanding.

This article is a reflection of what has been learned. Does it have a perceptual slant? I suppose but the visible date must not be ignored.

It would be impossible to thank all of you for your input. I am still waiting for Winston's breakout. I am sure it will come.

I could not use some images because of there were no creative commons license. I was able to sneak them in with the YouTube video.

Article link below.

Fred


Hort you can make it user friendly....

http://dfrank54.hubpages.com/hub/waterlife

Fred


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PostPosted: February 7, 2014 7:41 AM 


A song for Doug of UMSF....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bpzxf_flm8M

Fred


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PostPosted: February 7, 2014 7:44 AM 

A song for Doug....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bpzxf_flm8M

marscloseup


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PostPosted: February 13, 2014 8:52 PM 

Enjoy your contributions here on the blog, and look forward to your observations.
Nice Hubpages construction you have developed. Perhaps you can integrate my questions I entered there as a comment on your careful assessment of Mars water and life. My study is the materials science slant, but it may be pertinent to the study of life's possible presence on Mars, based upon whether Mars has distinct similar planetary patterns to be found either in the distant past, or even reasonably recent timing.
Copied from your comments list on your nice Hubpages presentation, this is Earth from weather to tectonics, including the matching gravity field patterns that shape both worlds earthquakes and tectonics action or potential activities.

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With so many unanswered Earth-based problems and processes, we have just opened the first few pages of Mars exploration. Here is a transparent view of the Earth from a polar viewpoint. North pole looking thru to the Antarctic.

http://imageshack.com/a/img189/992/arcticoceanbath...

Amazing close co-ordination of the north and south polar tectonic structures, both land and oceanic, with continuous mountains across both terrains, and shoreline in great articulate interactive formation and adjustment. Would Mars be this detailed a mystery if liquid water oceans were or have been prevalent on it's Northern Lowlands? Certainly what controls Earth also is attempting to control Mars. I have shown the Earth and Mars gravity structures are the same generally. You studying the weather vortex No. and So. know the patterns are a mirroring similar to the tectonics patterns shown in my image. A common thread of mystery and hard science fact revealed. Counterclockwise matches the clockwise when viewed through the Earth. It should follow on Mars as on Earth. ???

Is an identity relationship present in all physics of masses? This is not just isostasy and topographic mirroring?


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PostPosted: February 13, 2014 9:06 PM 

The C&P drops the full link for the image of mirrored polar geography and tectonics.
We should find some weather matches in the same polar view, and make a consumer image of the circulation matches. The transantarctic mountains continue across the far north of the Eurasian landmass a surely as a satellite were to orbit the Earth at a distance from the surface. A map of forces applied to a sphere, not a local movement of causes from local conditions. Does liquid water allow this display on Earth only?

http://imageshack.com/a/img189/992/arcticoceanbathymetryma.gif

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PostPosted: February 14, 2014 12:34 PM 

Fred, sorry it took me so long to reply...

There is a bug in the forum software ( there are many ) that prevents the FIRST comment in a topic from being edited.

For those of you too lazy to copy and paste the link in reply 0 ( first comment ) here is a clickable link:

http://dfrank54.hubpages.com/hub/waterlife.

It is interesting to see that 100% (4 people so far ) that took your poll believe that Mars has or had life.

As an aside I have to say that I liked the overall tone of the article.

Dana Johnson


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PostPosted: February 15, 2014 4:40 PM 

Fred, you may have some aid in assessing water and Mars weather with the change in orbit of the Mars Odyssey spacecraft, now underway. While it will take until 2015 for the new position to give early morning and after dusk photos and information, surely it will increase the routine afternoon images we are accustomed to with most all the other orbiters.
To match the weather on Earth and the weather on Mars, despite the widely varied conditions for the two planets will help solve the weather prediction and long term forecasting here on Earth.
It will also give a perspective on where to seek transient water on Mars.
Distinguishing between H2Oand CO2 ices in the air and on the surface is also important. When I presented here previously an image of the ice cap scarp with similar sized jagged craters in a mid-range elevation, with fissured cracks running between the craters, focusing on them, I suspected that somewhere in the ice pack or deeper there was a source of nitrogen ice released causing the fissuring and outward flowing crater production. Both H2O and CO2 don't have the explosive potential expansion of vaporizing nitrogen. 700 to 1 expansion I believe. I am wondering if we have the capability to 'see' releases of that gas in small zones such as the polar ice caps? Many claim the approximate -190 degrees is not possible on Mars even in the polar realm. If not, then what could cause craters to form networks of fissures, and why would recesses like craters form in a band of elevation?

Hopefully you can find the satellite information a boost in weather assessment on Mars soon.

Your presentation was well done. Maven and Odyssey may give you support soon.

Horton, can we re-access the archives someday soon? It is frustrating to lose the early years.

Dana Johnson


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PostPosted: February 15, 2014 4:41 PM 

http://www.nasa.gov/press/2014/february/nasa-moves-longest-serving-mars-spacecraft-for-new-observations/

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PostPosted: February 20, 2014 2:37 AM 

Nice post at top Fred. I've pondered the same images in the link for YEARS. Nice to see them in one package.

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PostPosted: February 20, 2014 9:26 PM 

Just presented as a blog this week, the Mars water 'question' with a relationship to the Mars interior gives some hope for future water to be found, or, an estimate of the past water sources for some geographic locations which suggest releases from depth.
Are the current ice caps originating from Mars or are they applied from beyond?

[link] ?showComment=1392948667206#c7467950381010377271

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PostPosted: February 28, 2014 10:25 AM 

Thank you all for your support. I got the Hort node. Good for me. I included your observation that the berries show a, "sense of self." I guess in retrospect I should have used a direct quote but heard nothing from my original quarry.

I still read the post here. I need to regulate myself. I can go, "off the chain," at times.

Thanks for the compliment John...

Fred

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PostPosted: February 28, 2014 11:32 AM 

Edit this...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HfApBz4_XQk

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PostPosted: February 28, 2014 11:57 AM 


Yea, right....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OQfjIw3mivc

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PostPosted: February 28, 2014 1:56 PM 

It is what it is...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G_bdMecxias

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PostPosted: March 7, 2014 11:25 AM 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lSIw09oqsYo

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PostPosted: March 7, 2014 11:40 AM 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cqZc7ZQURMs

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PostPosted: March 7, 2014 11:46 AM 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WANNqr-vcx0

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PostPosted: March 7, 2014 11:58 AM 

Temp 0C, NE wind at 20 in Baltimore..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N-aK6JnyFmk

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PostPosted: March 7, 2014 12:20 PM 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NKdknYaSHgE

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PostPosted: March 7, 2014 12:28 PM 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OQfjIw3mivc

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PostPosted: March 7, 2014 12:45 PM 

I do get muical at times,,,

I do get musical at times....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bb3Y6xhe748

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