In rocks' shadow

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DanP







PostPosted: April 10, 2013 11:36 PM 

Hi,

Sol 170 Mastcam 00:00:04 and 23.59:34. In the shadow of and up against a rock is a thing that looks similiar to a fungus.

On MPJ's latest gigapan there is a much clearer picture of it. Any chance someone could put that up with a more focused picture?

Thanks,

Dan

MPJ


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PostPosted: April 11, 2013 9:10 AM 

This feature (MastcamR Sol 173)?

Snapshot direct link: http://gigapan.com/gigapans/126968/snapshots/326435

You can always do screenshots while browsing the pans (alt+prntscr - paste into your graphic editor) even in fullscreen-mode.

DanP


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PostPosted: April 11, 2013 10:34 AM 

Thanks MPJ, but that's not it. below is a link to the NASA raw image.

The copy procedure you suggested did not work


On your gigapan it's towards the right hand side, straight up a bit from the inside corner.

Dan

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PostPosted: April 11, 2013 10:55 AM 

In that area this feature imidiatly got my attention - one of the earliest snapshots of that pan:

DanP


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PostPosted: April 11, 2013 11:27 AM 

Yes, that's it.

It doesn't appear to me as part of rock it's up against. (color, shape)Also appears to be on a stem coming up from the ground.

Like to get a closer look at this!

thanks,

Dan

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PostPosted: April 11, 2013 11:33 AM 

Very interesting.

Symmetries:
- round, with hole at center
- 6 or 7 features very similar at the other edge, every 50 or 60 degrees. The 3 at the top in particular look very similar.

John Henry Dough


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PostPosted: April 11, 2013 2:00 PM 

Is the image of a Lizard climbing a rock?Scales on the lizard,,distinct?

If NOT,,,then I have found another anomaly.

IF I can figure how to receive the SNAP-SHOT (S),,,in GigaPan,,,,,,,,,,,perhaps it is overloaded will try later.
jd

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PostPosted: April 11, 2013 3:14 PM 

Here is a screenshot from the pan:

and the according source file:

Also note that nice example of that "blue/green bubble mats" upper right! Smile

Yes I really would wish for some MAHLI close-up observation of this and lots of other features of the YkB area...

John Henry Dough


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PostPosted: April 11, 2013 3:50 PM 

Hope this works,,,,

John Henry Dough


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PostPosted: April 11, 2013 3:58 PM 

Nope ,,,,in order to see Lizard must viewed in giga-pan or else who-doo majik.

John Henry Dough


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PostPosted: April 12, 2013 5:52 PM 

My very last attempt.

http://gigapan.com/gigapans/126968/snapshots/326482

John Henry Dough


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PostPosted: April 12, 2013 5:59 PM 

http://gigapan.com/gigapans/126968/snapshots/326482#


Interesting and Thanks MPJ

John Henry Dough


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PostPosted: April 12, 2013 6:03 PM 

Quite the interesting Program,,,the rez is awesome,,,(I have one of the old mac monitors ,,crt,,very satisfying viewing of Mars regolith)

http://gigapan.com/snapshots/326652/comments

MPJ


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PostPosted: April 13, 2013 2:36 PM 

JHD, the links are working. Indeed interesting features you snapshoted.

The semi raw-data (published jpg source files)have been stitched and then processed (white balanced, color tuned, enlarged and sharpened) with Photoshop CS6.

Certain features are snapshoted multiple times by different users - my plan is to collect these and retrieve the real raw data for the most interesting features when available. This should be an eye-opening collection... Smile

Wildcat


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PostPosted: April 14, 2013 12:12 AM 

Why are the larger smooth rocks predominantly devoid of any "pebbles" that typically surround them? Wouldn't one expect eons of wind to deposit a few pebbles from an ancient stream on the top of a few of these rocks?

Or could they be something other than "pebbles?"

John Henry Dough


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PostPosted: April 17, 2013 12:56 PM 

MPJ,,,,,very much looking forward to your "interesting collection"
Timeline?

Dana Johnson


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PostPosted: June 9, 2013 10:58 AM 

In the closeups of various Mars rovers we have since late 2003 seen many items that could suggest fungi or fungal type objects in a variety of exposure conditions. Regardless of what we were seeing in current mineral or chemical content at present observation, we need to develop techniques for identification and reference. Curiously, I have never gone to the desert to spend time on my hands and knees with a macro-camera, or a microscope used directly on soil and rocks. It seemed excessive and the heat would be torturous. Most of our experience is with a standing or knee elevation common unaided eye view. Even a routine camera cannot be a substitute for the closeups the MER rovers were returning.
The MSL Curiosity is a more 'normal' experience, with cameras at a more routine scale. The MSL MAHLI views, can give better detail than most of us see by unaided eyesight.
Unfortunately, most all life and fossils are smaller than we see by unaided eyesight.
Here is a 2012 research article showing fungal items in cores from sea and ocean sub-seafloor drilling, extracted in vesicles of basalt rock. On Earth, and below waters, buried further, are samples of items similar to what we saw in the 2003-2012 MER images of the Micro Imager camera.
The imaging is low power micro range viewing, more powerful than even the MSL MAHLI can show.
These may aid in identification of Mars items until we have better techniques for viewing Mars rocks processed for closeup viewing at a more appropriate size scale.
Perhaps our future rovers will be successful in extracting drill cores or powder content which can reveal items of this detail, shown only in this decade as available in seafloor solid rocks in vesicles, embedded and buried for tens of millions of years, allowing fossilized reclamation. The polar and temperate realm of Mars, rather than the equatorial realm would aid in mineralization of fossils, with water ice present in quantity.
Will the rover be returned to the 'streambed' location for MAHLI imaging as a test of the preservation of large macro sized objects?

Fungal fossil objects in subseafloor basalts. 2012
http://www.biogeosciences.net/9/3625/2012/bg-9-3625-2012.pdf

LWS


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PostPosted: June 9, 2013 7:03 PM 

Dana;
Seminal post. Thanks

Winston




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