Water on this curiosity picture

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PostPosted: January 9, 2013 2:03 PM 

Check this out! Upper right corner of this image here:

Is this half-frozen water? Shocked Shocked Shocked

J. Chris Campbell


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PostPosted: January 9, 2013 4:57 PM 

If you are talking about the freshly unearthed ground that look like it might be about a inch thick and 6 to8 inches long?
Yes it does. Now if you are referring to the ground being darker.. That is where the tires of curiosity have disturbed the ground

Dana Johnson


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PostPosted: January 10, 2013 11:04 AM 

It gives me the impression that the general darkness is substantially real, or, not real, dependent upon whether the area has been a simple image as issued, or, rather, a doctored image of more than one item in overlay and assemblage.
I have selected a particular area for a 3X enlargement, and the obvious 3D correlation is rare and not common for an Earth scene. It does happen at times, however.
Can this be a former solid are decayed and altered, with remaining lighter items as parts of a 3D whole structure? Is the darker margins which cross the solids and mold to the shapes and area margins as particulates a residual material from the vast period of time Mars has presented this for our immediate viewing?
Was this a single mix now darker? Is this a valid image? Can a 3D appearance of overlay be a true 3D volume correlation of former solids?

I like the challenge. I believe this is real.

Is this a chemistry active spot of intrigue?

Could water be responsible for any of the current scene or chemistry alterations over time?

As the darker materials are not related to apparent motion or movement of the wheel, am I wrong about the cause of the darker margins and recesses, or is this a scene of 3D correlation with a wheel disturbance associated/

Curious about Curiosity.

Water anywhere? Water or moisture would shrink the size, thickness, or volume, wouldn't it?

It does give the general impression of something. I imagine a former oil diffusion of appearances, but for the 3D correlation of parts.

Is this image real at all?

I am sticking with chemistry and decay/erosion for now.
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Dana Johnson


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PostPosted: January 10, 2013 11:29 AM 

In deference to J. Chris Campbell, however, the scene does show that the wheel did traverse the spot, and that does often darken the particulates.
Were these darker elevated margins not covered by particulates after passage formerly covered by them prior to the wheel passage?
It appears the darkness is local and a 'zone' of change generally.

Just an illusion?

J. Chris Campbell


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PostPosted: January 10, 2013 7:37 PM 

I have given great to thought to the implications of a layer of ice slightly below the surface of this area of mars. It would imply I would think that we have some sort of permafrost type environment growing here. So what would that imply about the median temperature of this area of mars. If it is below the freezing point of water then below the surface there would be a lower chance of a ecosystem. Unless however there are active heating vents from the planets interior.
What I am really excited about is moving on to the mountain and the possibility of finding a opening large enough for curiosity to go in to and explore. Shoot just be able to peer in to a cave, what a wonderful experience that would be.

Another thing I have been pondering. I see that there is a public excitement and support for Mars, yet a lot is seemingly held back from the public. This century the public expects info to come quickly, there should be a lot more openness from the team. For example, where are all the results from the chemcam. Or why is there only day pictures. Doesn't curiosity have a way of taking night shots..where are those.

Anyway the public deserves a lot more openness to information. The brain power of many is much much greater than the brain power of few.

I have ranted enough. I hope we all can learn much more about Mars!!




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