Where's the Martian Beef?

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PostPosted: November 6, 2012 8:49 AM 

Well good Mar's folk>>>

90 days and hardly a thing to show for it. I have to be honest and say that I was very excited to hear about the MSL when it was being considered to be built and then be sent to Mars for 'further' investigation of the Red planetscape. And that may be what it really is...a simple, yet complicated, decaying and extremely poisonous dead world afterall. And that may be a good sign in itself, to be able to identify with our latest techno-instruments-a dead world.

Ho-hum science has been the norm here-so far, with similar rocks identified as that from Hawaii, well folks, Hawaii is surrounded by WATER, which is not unusual on Earth for a volcanic island, so where's the Martian Beef? [and not from methane cows] I have my doubts and its growing in that direction everyday. 17 cameras are not paving the way. Hell, we only have 1 set of stereo cameras ourselves and we can see quite clearly. Oppy and Spirit have shown us the way alright, but in what direction? Can MSL give us that direction we seek? All of us are looking into the latest varied pictures for that science EUREKA to happen from at least 2 working Rovers. 2.4 billion+ $ ehh!

I realize there are a shuttle load of extremely talented and gifted people working on these projects, seems ashamed they may get burned-and that means us too!


Thomas Lee Elifritz

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PostPosted: November 6, 2012 12:55 PM 

We still have hort. That's good enough for me.

r lewis

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PostPosted: November 6, 2012 5:02 PM 

Yeah, my sentiments exactly. That was the gist of my thread a few days ago:


We got a much bigger bang for our buck out of MER for sure!

John Henry Dough

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PostPosted: November 8, 2012 11:13 AM 

Well its like Thomas Lee Elifritz said,,,,,

we got Hort,,,,and you have to admit to some exciting times,,,and if you look at it from
a tech angle,,it was a hell of an accomplishment,showing the sheer audacity
of landing a rover (repeatedly) on barren Mars.

Who can you blame that there is no life,no sighn of past life,nor any plans to put life
as we know it on Mars?

There is no-one to blame.

We play the cards we are dealt in our lifetime.

Mine has been awesome,,,,and as Thomas Lee mentioned,,Horton played an Enormous role.

technology will continue to advance along with socialist economics,as per recent USA Presidential elections.

America will fall,,China will rise and you and I will rot in the ground.So actually things will pretty much continue as they

Cheers from Texas

Dana Johnson

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PostPosted: November 14, 2012 6:52 AM 

These rovers are a test of entirely new equipment, and as such, any successes are temporary incursions into new territory.
We are accomplishing the basics of functional trials and the imaging is becoming better along the path of the first two months.
We have yet to space harden the best Earth based equipment, so our returns are conditioned as in our Earth based new programs with the limits of money invested in space hardening of the rovers new devices. I also see the vast difference between what can be used on Earth, and what a rover can perform on Mars, however, the delays while painful to us today will be a basis for future ventures in future decades.
We planned many of these rovers tens of years past, and have only been able to build and land them in this decade.
MAHLI is becoming a good source for images, but I did get used to the MER MI system first, and the two are quite different.
I am hoping they can eventually develop a tabletop SEM equivalent device for some distant future rover, as the scale difference will add to the final picture without as much need for return sampling. They may even accomplish a centrifuge and several other devices for a rover, perhaps a true microscope that works along the travel path on the deck. Those require adding chemistry to the Martian environment, so they are not on the table of current plans for that reasoning.
Disorientation and some revision of equipment is normal, I expect. I do believe the limit of two years is not a plan in good timing.
Faster results of more closeups was expected here with Curiosity, however, and seems frustrating. The changes of field of view, and lack of marked panoramas, leaving inefficient cross-checking could get to be a problem once the traverse is gaining distance across thousands of rocks per week, possibly.

How to maintain a listing of named objects without a catalog of marked reference images in a slide-show form seems daunting if dozens or hundreds of contributors are commenting daily in future months. Any solutions to suggest about that quandary?

Any remnants seen in the tests on Curiosity would have to be chemistry results as I understand the system onboard.

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