Mystery of Martian Methane

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PostPosted: October 25, 2012 6:24 PM 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HvHnYXpeRsA

Barsoomer


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PostPosted: October 25, 2012 8:26 PM 

I'm unable to post anything to some of the other threads at the moment. I can't even type into the text boxes.

hortonheardawho


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PostPosted: October 25, 2012 9:53 PM 

Aha! I'm not the only one having a problem typing into any text boxes in the blog.

Barsoomer, what O/S and browser are you using?

I can no longer use Firefox on a Windows 2000 machine to make comments on this blog.

I am now using a Windows 7 and IE 9 to post all my comments to the blog.

The weird thing is that only this site seems to have this problem. I think Mark must have done an update to the blog software that affects only older systems.

Any one else having problems typing into text boxes in some - or all - topics?

Barsoomer


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PostPosted: October 25, 2012 10:44 PM 

I had that problem using firefox with both Sun Solaris 2.10 and a Linux Redhat OS (unix systems), but only on some topics, not on others.

I also have experienced it with Safari on MacOS Snow Leopard. Not sure if topic makes a difference. Chrome seemed to work when Safari did not.

When I can't type into a textbox, I also cannot follow certain links. I have only noticed this in the last few days.

Paul Scott Anderson


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PostPosted: October 25, 2012 10:45 PM 

When I typed my previous post here in this topic today, I temporarily wasn't able to type in the text box, but then I refreshed the page and it worked again. I'm using Safari and OS X Mountain Lion on my iMac.

Barsoomer


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PostPosted: October 26, 2012 12:10 AM 

Mountain Lion is newest MacOS so it is not a problem with old browsers.

With Safari, I was able to post here but not in the other methane thread. But now Safari doesn't work here either. I am posting this with Chrome.

A couple of days ago, refreshing made it work again but now refreshing doesn't seem to help any more.

So the problem seems to be getting worse. The behavior suggests to me that it might be a virus of some kind.

Barsoomer


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PostPosted: October 26, 2012 12:13 AM 

Well now Safari is working again for me at least for this topic. Very strange.

dx


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PostPosted: October 26, 2012 1:29 AM 

test

yt
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dx


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PostPosted: October 26, 2012 1:39 AM 

h>>>

To answer your 2 above:

I'm using Windows XP SP3 with Firefox latest browser...been this way for over 10 years since leaving IE...no problem typing or adding pics in the text box here any other blogs I'm associated with.

Wanted to do the 'test' in 7 above since reviving my comp last week.

I have also posted [w/o pics] here using iOS5 and iOS6 Safari on my iPad2 again without any problems.

yt
dx

dx


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PostPosted: October 26, 2012 2:02 AM 

You folks should clean the guts of your comp using CCleaner, at least every few days. Its free. It also contains a registry cleaner too. Been using it for years as well as these 2 below.

Check for 'bugs' Barsoomer with Malwarebytes Anti-Maleware AND SuperAntiSpyware. Both are free to download and use.

Good luck.

yt
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RJS


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PostPosted: October 26, 2012 7:49 AM 


I have not had many problems posting here. Am using Windows 7 & Explorer 9. I do have difficulty with copy and past, especially photos and links,

Barsoomer


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PostPosted: October 26, 2012 11:20 PM 

I removed all cookies, forbade new cookies, emptied the cache, and restarted Safari, and now I can post in this thread again. Not sure if this is a permanent fix. Every time I tried to click in a text box, it seemed to add a new cookie from MarsRoverBlog.

Barsoomer


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PostPosted: October 26, 2012 11:24 PM 

Not a permanent fix. The text box got blocked again. However, restarting Safari again freed it again.

I am hoping this information will be useful if Mark tries to diagnose the problem.

John


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PostPosted: October 27, 2012 3:31 AM 

Okay.........back to the methane. I have looked up a few things about biotic methane vs. abiotic methane. However, I have not found the test that offers how to differentiate them. If CH4 is Ch4, What is the difference?

Barsoomer


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PostPosted: October 28, 2012 2:02 PM 

John, there are different isotopes of carbon depending on how many neutrons are in the nucleus. Life tends to concentrate the lighter isotopes, so that might be a way of discriminating between the two.

Barsoomer


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PostPosted: October 29, 2012 4:55 PM 

link

Research to determine if Earth methanogens can survive under simulated Martian conditions.

John


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PostPosted: November 1, 2012 1:30 AM 

Much thanks Barsoomer, much thanks.

Dana Johnson


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PostPosted: November 1, 2012 7:11 AM 

To test the posting potential here, this may interest Hortonheardawho, as the Heard Island volcano is just starting to sputter eruption this week again. It's just off the coast of Antarctica, 2,750 meters high, and gave some small erupting gestures in Sept., 2012. Last time was 1993.
Not methane related, perhaps, but there may be a connection between methane and eruptions in regions, being tectonically related processes.
If only we had some action on Mars, what a textbook an eruption could be, especially if we could land a rover on a 'hot' spot.

What was the telecom info this week? Tuesday.

Dana Johnson


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PostPosted: November 1, 2012 7:28 AM 

My prior post @17, was not visible until I refreshed the Slim Browser page, and did work despite a '504' error warning.
The active link to 17.
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Dana Johnson


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PostPosted: November 4, 2012 9:02 AM 

One of the very generalized graphics defining a few possible sources of methane, and, a couple of the dissipation processes accounting for it's rapid disappearance.
Have we any improvement in the observations or explanations the past few years of rover and satellite testing?
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source:
http://mars.jpl.nasa.gov/msl/multimedia/images/?ImageID=4846
There have been elaborate testing selection focusing directives used to give 'basalt' as the only well understood solid on the Gale crater trail thus far.
Is there a missing range of altered or substituted materials which we are not seeing in the instrument tests, including the unusual items and materials which might add to the methane presence mystery?

Can the ChemCam resolve methane as such? The components were present in the Coronation first use, but not identified as methane.
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http://mars.jpl.nasa.gov/msl/multimedia/images/?ImageID=4541
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Carbon and hydrogen at the inset results, upper right of center. ID was carbon dioxide gas and a mystery surface hydrogen component. The hydrogen disappeared at the first laser shot of thirty total firings?

Dana Johnson


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PostPosted: November 4, 2012 7:33 PM 

We have on Earth the combined 'bio' and other sources, with an atmosphere of oxygen in quantity, so we can observe one method of identifying the gas when present. We have so much on Earth we cook with it, and travel with it in engines.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FM0hczFNDZI&feature=related
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Ice locked methane, probably not a source of Mars methane.

Below, a mud-pot from the Salton sea, matches some vague details of Gale crater at sol 60-70, with the drainage channel, vacuity laced rock with circular rimed disk shapes. Too much dis-similarity to the Mars rocks? Not methane but volcanic, with possible methane gas in minor quantity at some time in the past, and right along the San Andreas fault where serpentine is at some locations contorted to an altered content and appearance. We find Jade and Serpentine from Alaska to Central California.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w0XO7t8KLOs&feature=watch-vrec
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