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Barsoomer


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PostPosted: July 12, 2012 10:18 PM 

Image in 260 reached via

https://www.evernote.com/pub/marsrovers/Opportunityimages

See MER/Tech, General and Imagery section of UMSF for an explanation of this site.

hortonheardawho


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PostPosted: July 12, 2012 11:58 PM 

er, I get an "access denied" when I tried your reply 260 link.

WHY didn't you link to the exploratorium version??:

What is the point of the Evernote site?

BTW, this image is on the wrong side of the next drive pan to be near "whim creek":

Sol 3008 4x1 L2 next drive direction:

It doesn't look like anything from sol 3010 was downlinked today - so I'm goin' t'bed.

hortonheardawho


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PostPosted: July 13, 2012 9:41 AM 

Hmm. I can now access the image in reply 260.

Ah, the joys of the internet. Somebody fixed somethin' somewhere.

Just like I "fixed" the link this morning to the new next drive direction 4x1 pancam in the above comment - and replaced "wedge creek" with "whim creek" in several previous comments.

Every day I see evidence of my brain's slow deteriation - like mis-remembering the name of the feature called - on a whim - "whim creek" rather than it's more logical name based on its shape - "wedge creek".

As a former programmer I used to agonize over the "correct" name of variables and functions - so that my code was self-documenting.

An incorrect name has dire consequences in the human mind - at least in this mind.

Ah, another sign of aging. Rambling.

hortonheardawho


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PostPosted: July 13, 2012 12:34 PM 

sol 2981 ( Jun 13, 2012 ) 3D infrared of track crossing Monte Cristo vein:

A month after this was taken and only the L2 and R2,4,6,7 have been posted. Strange.

I went looking for the missing left raw images on the official MER site ( thinking I had somehow missed them on Exploratorium ) and was much surprised to see that none of the filters of this image have yet been posted. The images were posted on Exploratorium June 9.

I think there are some very interesting blueberries ( red berries in the infrared ) here.

Is it "just a coincidence" that so many "fresh" blueberries are close to a water related mineral?? HummM? HumMM???

hortonheardawho


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PostPosted: July 13, 2012 2:02 PM 

sol 2907-2976 super 3D of Endeavour dark dunes:

with links back to - well if you're interested you will follow the links - otherwise I'm wasting your time.

Who wouldn't want to go there? right there. ( The whole effin' MER team that's who. )

hortonheardawho


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PostPosted: July 13, 2012 3:00 PM 

4. What EDRs did we request?

Expected EDRs by sequence number and image type:

Sol Seq.Ver ETH ESF EDN EFF ERP Tot Description
----- -------- --- --- --- --- --- ---- -----------
03011 p2601.05 4 2 0 0 2 8 pancam_tau_L78R48
03011 Total 4 2 0 0 2 8

Yikes!

What's it gonn'a be like when MSL arrives in 23 days, 10 hours, 31 minutes, 15 seconds?

And what if Odyssey stays broke? And when will I ever find true love? ( Organ music up. )

Barsoomer


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PostPosted: July 13, 2012 3:25 PM 

[link]

Update on status of Mars Odyssey.

According to Emily Lakdawalla's blogs on TPS, if ODY is out of service when MSL arrives, then only the direct-to-earth beeps will be seen during EDL. More comprehensive telemetry will be received by MRO and MEX, but they won't have line of sight to Earth to relay the data until after landing.

dx


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PostPosted: July 13, 2012 6:14 PM 

h>>>

Your 266 made me LMAO...Stones forever 'h'...they are practicing!!!

Organ music!!!!!Come on 'h'...jump up a notch or 2. Its only Mars.

yt
dx

Kevin Author Profile Page



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PostPosted: July 14, 2012 8:59 AM 

The Mars Rover Driver on Twitter yesterday said they are receiving no data and thefore could not drive. This whole situation with ODY needs addressing can the DSN plug the gap?

hortonheardawho


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PostPosted: July 14, 2012 11:56 AM 

According to the Odyssey Mission report Odyssey resumed normal operations on Thursday at 10 AM PDT.

But as of a few minutes ago sol 3012, 7AM LST there STILL has been no data from Oppy since sol 3009.

In the meantime you may find this montage from sol 2986 ( Jun 18, 2012 ) interesting:


Or maybe not. ( Wonder what mineral are the "scarlet" rocks? )

Or how about another gypsum vein:

sol 2969 ( May 31, 2012 ):


Is it another coincidence that the largest concentration of "fresh" ( darker ) berries is around the veins?

Does anyone else notice this?

hortonheardawho


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PostPosted: July 14, 2012 12:32 PM 

Hmm. I wonder if anyone has considered using the Allen Telescope to communicate with Curiosity during EDL, since the array, with no modifications, covers the main space communications bands (S-band and X-band).

hortonheardawho


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PostPosted: July 14, 2012 1:29 PM 

From Rise/Set/Transit Times for Major Solar System Bodies and Bright Stars using Mars as the object and San Francisco, CA as the location:

Looks like Mars is visible from Hat Creek when Curiosity Lands:

Mars

SAN FRANCISCO, CALIFORNIA
Location: W122°26'24.0", N37°45'36.0", 0m
(Longitude referred to Greenwich meridian)

Time Zone: 7h 00m west of Greenwich

Date Rise Az. Transit Alt. Set Az.

2012 Aug 05 (Sun) 11:41 99 17:20 45S 22:58 261
2012 Aug 06 (Mon) 11:40 99 17:18 44S 22:56 260
2012 Aug 07 (Tue) 11:39 100 17:17 44S 22:54 260
2012 Aug 08 (Wed) 11:38 100 17:15 44S 22:51 260
2012 Aug 09 (Thu) 11:37 100 17:13 44S 22:49 259

Kevin Author Profile Page



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PostPosted: July 14, 2012 1:30 PM 

The 14 minutes delay in comms means MSL will be taking care of its own destiny during EDL very few tweeks have had to be done during flight so it should not need too many commands to hit the correct entry window.

I am not sure which part of Earth will be facing Mars during the EDL but as with Apollo I am sure all the dishes around the world could be asked to help with Comms. NASA/JPL would be wise to start talking to those who operate these dishes as a contingency. MRO is up there anyway so I guess it will take over comms duties if need be.

#270 well it is perhaps no coincidence it seems to me that Endeavour is moist to say the least and the Gypsum points us to some of the wetter parts allowing for new berry formation, geological time scales of course. Endeavour is a great place and it is making me feel quite excited about getting MSL to Gale Crater. Oppy is still turning up the trump cards and no doubt MSL mission planners are taking note and learning from this amazing mission.

hortonheardawho


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PostPosted: July 14, 2012 2:03 PM 

Kevin, I corrected your 273 comment. I tried to find an on-line Mars-Earth Distance calculator but all I found was this Real-time Earth Mars Distance Calculator. Mars is currently 12.6 light minutes distant and receding.

hortonheardawho


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PostPosted: July 14, 2012 2:57 PM 

This is strange:

4. What EDRs did we request?

Expected EDRs by sequence number and image type:

Sol Seq.Ver ETH ESF EDN EFF ERP Tot Description
----- -------- --- --- --- --- --- ---- -----------
03012 p1635.03 10 0 0 10 0 20 navcam_5x1_az_54_3_bpp
03012 p2090.03 5 5 0 0 2 12 pancam_cal_targ_L247R27
03012 p2090.03 5 5 0 0 2 12 pancam_cal_targ_L247R27
03012 p2102.14 3 0 3 0 1 7 pancam_isc_voc_cal_L267
03012 p2104.10 3 0 3 0 1 7 pancam_mtes_cal_target_L267
03012 p2534.30 5 0 0 5 2 12 pancam_photom_east_L247R27
03012 p2535.30 5 0 0 5 2 12 pancam_photom_west_L247R27
03012 p2601.05 4 2 0 0 2 8 pancam_tau_L78R48
03012 p2762.07 5 0 0 5 2 12 pancam_photom_east_L247R27
03012 p2763.07 5 0 0 5 2 12 pancam_photom_west_L247R27
03012 Total 50 12 6 30 16 114

A full 360 navcam pan was done on sol 3008 and on sol 3010 a 180 pan in direction 234 was requested ( but not done - after the drive was not done? ) and now a 180 pan in the opposite direction ( 54 ) has been requested.

Does this mean: that the move not done will in fact be done today - along with the old pan and the new pan?

OR...

OR does it mean the Mars Rover Driver on twitter is a twit - or - ore - oar ... row, roe, rho yer' bote, gentl' like a scream, verily, merrily, squirrely, - life is but a *** blue screen of death *** HALT.

( I used to love writing stream of consciousness poetry. When I was young. And clever. And looking for a clever mate. ( Man those were the days. ( Gee the old LaSalle ran great ) ) )

Barsoomer


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PostPosted: July 14, 2012 11:21 PM 

"We are on a cautious path to resume Odyssey's science and relay operations soon,..."

Coming out of safe mode does not necessarily mean Odyssey has resumed relay operations. After the last safe mode, I think that took several days.

While it may be technically possible to use other assets to monitor MSL, there may be legal restrictions that make it difficult.

hortonheardawho


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PostPosted: July 15, 2012 2:38 PM 

sol 2759 ( Oct 29, 2011 ) 4x difference enhanced dust devil in Endeavour:

created from the original data.

Here is the full sized version made from the actual rad values. Be sure to read the Flickr comment.

The more I look at this the less I understand what I am seeing. Where is a weather guy when you need him?

LWS


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PostPosted: July 15, 2012 9:41 PM 

Check out Talbott's "the Electric Universe"
Winston

hortonheardawho


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PostPosted: July 16, 2012 8:50 AM 

1. What new EDRs from ANY sol were received on sol 3010, 3011, 3012, 3013, 3014?

Number of EDRs received by sol, sequence number, and image type:

Sol Seq.Ver ETH ESF EDN EFF ERP Tot Description
----- -------- --- --- --- --- --- ---- -----------
No EDRs found!!!

Not even one direct thumbnail transmission to Earth in 5 sols? Something is broken.

hortonheardawho


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PostPosted: July 17, 2012 8:09 AM 

It appears that the MSL mission has completely taken over the Mars comm slot.

Perhaps after Curiosity has been lowered 20 meters on it's 21 foot cable Oppy will get a scrap of time.

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