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Luca
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Posted: May 13, 2004 4:07 PM |
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It's not a fossil, it's just a fresh... "evidence" of cows beeing on Mars:
[url=http://qt.exploratorium.edu/mars/opportunity/pancam/2004-05-12/1P137418857EFF2208P2360L7M1.JPG]image[/url]
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um3k
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Posted: May 13, 2004 4:17 PM |
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richard
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Posted: May 13, 2004 4:38 PM |
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That explanes all of the methane!
Bovine flatulence:
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Amalgamale
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Posted: May 13, 2004 4:56 PM |
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hehe ...... more poop
Studying this photograph now. Interesting shapes, to be sure. Some look a little "delicate" to have survived for billions of years, on or near the surface.
Hmmmmmmmmmmm, I wonder why weathering didn't break this tall larger object down? I wonder what the geologist think of that. |
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Amalgamale
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Posted: May 13, 2004 5:03 PM |
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Once again, it looks like NASA is trying to hide something truly interesting. I wonder how long this BS is going to go on?
Those delicate features are not logical. Hell, I can see that.
I'm beginning to think this blog is actually a firewall of sorts. Is anyone else wondering this, on occassion? |
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Daniel
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Posted: May 13, 2004 5:08 PM |
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Wow - I think your on to something there. No rock looking like that could survive millions of years of wind erosion. Why I bet that wind is as harsh as a new born babies breath! The rock would be long ago scoured away!
But don't let on to NASA that you know their game plan - I think this board is crawling with Geologist/NASA/DOD plants - out to thwart our plot to discover their conspiracy. |
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Ian
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Posted: May 13, 2004 5:20 PM |
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Daniel, you are right about the baby's breath, that is something that I tried to introduce some time ago - erosion here is probably very very delicate. Features can survive on the surface for millions or who knows, billions of years, gradually being whittled away. I think that accounts for berries on stalks and fine tracery in some of these delicate rocks. You just don't see anything like that on Earth because its a much higher energy environment, you're lucky if something survives a few ten-thousand years before being buried, subducted or sand-blasted by a tornado. On Mars, to understand these features requires a whole new mind set. I said before that it might look familiar but its an alien place and things just don't look like they do in Kansas. |
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Amalgamale
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Posted: May 13, 2004 5:25 PM |
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This argument is getting a little bit old for the honest participants here.
I think the hard working, "believers in something" could easily band together and create a new forum which is moderated better.
We are discussing this through back door channels, even now. We need our own firewall against the paid dissidents. |
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They're Rocks
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Posted: May 13, 2004 5:30 PM |
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Ian, Daniel, NASA is paying me a "debunking fee" of 30 dollars an hour. Something tells me, though, that I'm being underpaid. What is NASA paying you? |
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Anonymous
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Posted: May 13, 2004 5:45 PM |
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Ian,
What about the effects of ionizing radiation? Over that length of time it would be almost as damaging and weathering as other forms of erosion. There are many things which aren't adding up. Many things which don't make sense really.
Chief among them, are the almost rabid, detractors on this blog. |
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Ian
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Posted: May 13, 2004 5:48 PM |
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So Amalgamale, you are saying that I'm not an honest participant - a paid dissident?
I am paid by no-one, communicate with no-one on this forum outside of it and am here because I am enthusiastic about what is coming back from Mars and want to discuss and get people's ideas on what we're seeing and share in the excitement. Trouble is, to do that you have to wade through piles of BS. The only saving grace I suppose is that I had a look at one or two other forums and they seemed to be populated by even more cuckoos than this one and there are many people contributing here that are clearly smart, educated and fascinating to read their ideas - and I don't just mean the 'They're rocks' crowd - there is a good spectrum of opinion. Don't get me wrong, I do not think you uneducated or unintelligent, just misguided in your enthusiasm - if only you could discipline it. Just because you don't believe an argument and its 'a little old' doesn't make it wrong.
You haven't even the slightest conception of the subtlety and analytical capability of modern science or the rigour and care in presenting evidence and constructing a sound argument that is the norm for the NASA scientists. |
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gregp1962
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Posted: May 13, 2004 5:51 PM |
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What?! You're getting paid? I'm just volunteering my time.
BTW, what do you all think of the analogy refered to in reply #20 in the following thread? (reply in THAT thread so as to keep it on topic)
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Ian
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Posted: May 13, 2004 5:52 PM |
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Hush, TR reply 9 - you've just given my cover away that I've carefully constructed in reply 11 - replies 9&10 appeared before I managed to post my answer to reply 8. (You're being done! $300 per hour) |
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They're Rocks
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Posted: May 13, 2004 6:06 PM |
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I knew it! Fuck! So you're getting 300 bucks an hour while I get 30 and Greg doesn't get shit! None of this is fair.
We've got to talk to NASA. I knew I should have used an agent. |
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richard
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Posted: May 13, 2004 6:18 PM |
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Rocks
Do we have to get the soap out and wash out your mouth?.
People have been banned here for profanity an I for one would not like to see that in your case.
Let's keep it clean. OK?
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They're Rocks
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Posted: May 13, 2004 6:21 PM |
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I apologize, Richard. It was an angry outburst. I can't believe NASA is treating me this way. Don't you think I deserve at least as much as Ian for debunking fossil claims? To say nothing of poor Greg, who is getting paid nothing at all.
I'm thinking of going on strike. |
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gregp1962
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Posted: May 13, 2004 6:27 PM |
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I agree we should keep it clean. TR if one of my kids said that, he'd be grounded until he's 18.
But, you have a point. I'm filing a grievance with the union concerning the disparity in pay!! |
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gregp1962
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Posted: May 13, 2004 6:44 PM |
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What am I thinking? It doesn't take any brains or talent to debunk stuff like this;
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Rob
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Posted: May 13, 2004 7:08 PM |
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Banned for profanity?
Fuck that! |
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moxy
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Posted: May 13, 2004 8:20 PM |
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is that the same "sweet breath" of Mars that has carved out all of those canyons?...not to mention those "dust devils", which have been accused of forming every anomalous surface feature ever encountered.
How delicate of them. How sweet. |
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