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PostPosted: April 22, 2004 1:38 AM 

Upper right corner behind the big bug looking thing a hole and ??? in it?
anyone?
Richard
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mann


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PostPosted: April 22, 2004 3:32 AM 

Look at all the stuff moved around. they must have reached out and moved things around to get a better look at something of interest. Sol 13? I don't recall this action taking place. this was once upon a time when they gave decent updates to. They seem to hold onto images for a while. cool.

mann


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PostPosted: April 22, 2004 3:41 AM 

and yes, what the heck is that. it looks like its still fresh Shocked

richard


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PostPosted: April 22, 2004 10:40 AM 

Im begining to believe I could post a photo from the rovers of a 747 and not many would pay attention here. Why isnt this worth talking about guys and gals?
I have so much more to share but If I can't even get a thread going, whats the point?
Richard

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PostPosted: April 22, 2004 10:52 AM 

Don't despair. I believe there are many who are sitting on the fence and silently viewing what is posted.

What "buglike" thing?

I see where the rover moved a number of rocks in the upper right-hand corner...I also see an interesting line in the sand right of the large rock.

what "hole"?..I don't see it.

moxy


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PostPosted: April 22, 2004 10:54 AM 

I meant left of the rock. not right.

dsylexia. Smile

richard


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PostPosted: April 22, 2004 11:08 AM 

moxy
You are gonna have to zoom on this one.
At the far left end of the line.
Richard

moxy


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PostPosted: April 22, 2004 11:18 AM 

well...isn't it possible that the line was caused by the rover when it turned over that "buglike" rock?...leaving a small depression?

I'm not clear on what you are seeing, but i do know that the more pictures I look at, the more I am convinced that mars is a very weird place.

BTW, I didn't realize that name Cairo is a form of the Arabic for the planet Mars.

interesting.

Amalgamale


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PostPosted: April 22, 2004 11:30 AM 

Rich,

I think I see what you're talking about. There are several odd things about this photo. When do you think they released this, I'm very curious about that?

I see something very cool. Something I've been looking for, for awhile now, up close. One of those thing a ling a ling's, that are all over the place i various sizes. Very strange. But why don't you post a highlighted version on the same site that US trax utilizes for free? I tried it, it's pretty cool, and easy to use.

richard


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PostPosted: April 22, 2004 11:37 AM 

Any Idea what site he uses? The last time I tried I had nothing but problems.
Richard

richard


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PostPosted: April 22, 2004 11:41 AM 

By the way
this is from SOL 13
Richard

r lewis


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PostPosted: April 22, 2004 12:06 PM 

First of all, this image was taken at
10:50:58 Mars local solar time, camera commanded to use Filter 7 (28 nm)

Another image was taken 10:47:39 Mars local solar time, camera commanded to use Filter 2 (19 nm), about 3 minutes earlier, but at this wavelength the patch in the upper right is darker, looks moist?


IF there was movement (I doubt it strongly) are there other images of the same area? Anyone want to check all the pan cam, nav cam, and haz cam images to see what there is to see?

However, the line in the sand is inexplicable. What could cause that? Was the rover arm deployed in this area and that might have done this?

r lewis


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PostPosted: April 22, 2004 12:11 PM 

By the way, On the left pan cam, filter 7 is deep violet, almost near UV (430 nm), and filter 2 is near IR (750 nm), so the "second" image is in IR. The dark patch may mean it is cooler, and the images are close to noon local solar time.

mann


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PostPosted: April 22, 2004 12:11 PM 

Heres a nav cam image, from same sol. could these be air bag marks? could be what caused disturbance in richards image above.

halitosis


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PostPosted: April 22, 2004 1:01 PM 

If you cry wolf a million times, people will tend to not pay attention on that one million and one-th try.

Amalgamale


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PostPosted: April 22, 2004 4:16 PM 

This is an excellent example of movement around a burrow. I have some more Rich. I'll back you up on the movement around some of these burrows, buddy.

I didn't propose Malacostraca-M. just because I felt like it. There's something living in and around some of these small burrows, I am 100% convinced of it.

There's a ton of stuff we haven't see yet, apparently, or overlooked because of our own naive arrogance perhaps.

Do you think that they held back this photo for awhile Rich? I think I remember seeing it before, honestly, but at that time I was in a highly non receptive mode for this kind of discovery. Hell, some of the guys still are in the closet.

Rob


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PostPosted: April 22, 2004 6:41 PM 

I'm just not seeing it at all, guys.

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PostPosted: April 22, 2004 10:37 PM 

I see the line in the sand,,,,but can't find the hole?


Shocked

Ralphw


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PostPosted: April 22, 2004 10:39 PM 

wow sol 13?
man Rich what are ya going over every pic again?

but i gotta say if i had more time i would too

richard


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PostPosted: April 22, 2004 11:13 PM 

Ralph
For the first time in my life I do have some extra time!It feels great!
I also feel this is important.
I believe Nasa uploaded many new photos during the Reboot
Richard

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PostPosted: April 23, 2004 7:57 PM 

With the night-time temperatures hovering around the water dewpoint on Mars, It say there may be some surface frost during the night, which sublimates during the day. That could be a clue to some of the differences between images.

Now let's take this further - we have soluble salts in the strata, and the duracrust. At some stage, liquid brine will form in the area between the ice crystals and the salt saturated rock. This will form a solution gradient along the crystal, and the exact position of the solid-liquid interface will depend on the temperature.

Morning arrives, and the temperature increases - the dissolved salts are freeze-dried to leave a fuzz of crystals.

Just thinking aloud.

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